To some people, it’s of the utmost importance to engage in a tireless quixotic quest to locate “liberal intolerance”. These people generally style themselves as “conservatives”, though in fact they’re generally right-wing radicals. And there’s nothing more important to a right-wing radical than attacking “liberals”, however that term is – or much more commonly, is not – defined. (One of these days, I promise, we’ll take a good look at those much-abused terms “liberal” and conservative”, which are almost never used properly anymore, and which I almost always bracket in quotation marks, and for very good reason.) Many of them literally live for it. Since “liberal”, in the true sense of the word, is more or less synonymous with tolerant, “liberal intolerance” is a self-canceling phrase, rather like “conservative movement”. Therefore, it has become a chimera of choice among such“conservatives”.
Recently the Mercatus Center, a very influential right-wing think tank (founded and funded by the billionaire Koch Bros., who have been quietly but steadily buying out democracy for several years) released a laughable “study” showing that “liberal” states (California, New York, New Jersey) enjoy less freedom than “conservative” states. Essentially, the rule of thumb they followed is the fewer laws, the more freedom. They don’t seem to consider the possibility that the Big Apple, with some 8,000,000 inhabitants crammed onto a compact sliver of soil, might actually need more laws than Lamont, Wyoming with its population of 3. Furthermore, if you take a glance at the graph of the factors they considered and how they were weighted (yes, they were actually so inept as to publicize this information), you’ll note that financial matters constitute TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT of what they regard as crucial. Guns, of course figure significantly into the mix, but nowhere is there a mention of reproductive regulation, which almost all right-wingers are very gung ho about. Just goes to show that you really can prove black is white, provided you have no scruples about cooking the books.
It’s only natural, then, that such “conservatives” should salivatingly turn their gaze toward the librul Gomorrah called San Francisco, which has always been a supreme melting pot of all kinds of lifestyles, and therefore has always had a reputation for tolerance. (I speak with some authority on this topic, having lived more than 15 years of my own life as a San Franciscan.) And oh yeah, San Francisco sometimes passes certain laws, you see; and according to right-wing logic, a law aimed at curbing intolerance is the ultimate act of intolerance.
Recently, rumor has it that the City By The Bay played into their hands by banning circumcision. How dare those effete elites decree that we can’t carve up the wee-wees of our own babies? It’s been called a blatant infringement of “freedom of expression”, as if infant genitalia were artistic materials to be molded into expressive shapes to our liking.
Actually, San Francisco has not banned circumcision, at least not yet. What happened was that after a requisite number of signatures were collected, the proposed law was placed on the ballot, so in November, the electorate will decide whether or not to approve it. It’s the democratic process (also known as “liberal intolerance”) the way it was meant to work.
Fox Noise couldn’t wait for November, but promptly declared the measure to be a hitleresque attack on Jews. Never mind that the ban applies to all circumcisions, the great majority of which are performed by goyim. Never mind that a quarter of the city’s residents are Jewish, including no doubt a good many who signed the petition. Yes, it’s true that many Jews have decried the measure, but many others support it; just don’t expect to hear much about them, because they don’t fit the media narrative of librul intolerance so neatly. Incidentally, Fox’s righteous indignation doesn’t appear to extend so much to concern for Muslims, who are also habitual pecker-choppers.
You expect this kind of crap from Pox News, but they weren’t alone. This was a golden opportunity for the powerful right-wing propaganda engine to do what it does best: manufacture outrage out of misinformation. It’s probably safe to say that there has been far more outrage expressed in the last few weeks over this one little law (which isn’t even a law, and probably never will be) than there has ever been expressed over circumcision itself, even though it’s been around for ages, and many have always found it objectionable.
Even more interesting, there has been far more outrage over female circumcision, which is already illegal not only in librul San Francisco, but everywhere else in The United States, as well as many other countries. And I’ve never heard of anyone complain of those laws infringing on freedom of expression.
This discrepancy is surprising for two reasons: there are far fewer female circumcisions than male, and females are usually considered of lesser worth than male, particularly in societies heavily dominated by religion. But that’s the rub: religion. Although female circumcision is often inspired by religious beliefs, it is typically not a religious rite per se. Its purpose is to permanently impair the ability of women to experience sexual pleasure, and to help keep the female head securely under the male boot.
Similarly, male circumcision has been the rage in America since Puritan times, when it caught on not for religious reasons (Jews were really a small minority then) but because it was believed to discourage boys from choking the chicken. (The Puritans were on the right track, but you’d really have to cut off the whole thing.) Still, while religion didn’t provide the inspiration, it provided the defense: anything good enough for Jesus is good enough for our children, so shuddup and pass the nails .
Religion and tradition are the twin pillars that have supported all kinds of practices including slavery and human sacrifice. These activities have been largely eliminated after many bold strokes of librul intolerance, in defiance of “conservatives” who demanded “I don’t need no stinkin’ guvmint limiting my freedom to do whatever I want to other people.”
No, no, I am not suggesting that circumcision is in a class with those things. The point is that while “conservatives” often seem to invoke religion and tradition to justify anything and everything, the truth is that absolutely NOTHING can be logically justified on such grounds alone; there are always other factors that need to be considered. Circumcision, for example, has long been believed to be hygienically beneficial, though the evidence is by no means conclusive. The people of San Francisco, or at least some of them, have considered certain other factors.
There is, for one thing, the inescapable fact that circumcision is quite painful. This can be mitigated somewhat, and many try to convince themselves that babies don’t feel the pain at all. But that’s royal technicolor bullshit. At any age, it hurts like hell to have something amputated from your body – whether it be a finger, an ear, or part of Mr. Winkie.
For some slice-ees, the experience is also highly traumatic. There is even evidence that circumcised males may be more prone to low self-esteem and depression. It clearly doesn’t have that kind of effect on everyone, but there are support groups with plenty of members (no pun intended) for circumcised adults, some of whom even undergo procedures to restore the loss.
So the issue is not tolerance vs. intolerance. It’s extreme tolerance vs. extreme tolerance. On the one hand, you have the tolerance for religious tradition, to the point of allowing parents to make religious decisions for their children, even to the point of inflicting pain and possible lifelong trauma, and permanently deciding the appearance of Tiny Tim. On the other hand, you have the tolerance for individualism, to the point of sparing children the pain and trauma, and allowing them to decide for themselves whether their package will remain intact.
You may not approve of what decision the San Francisco voters ultimately make. You have the right not to approve. But to brand the initiative itself as intolerance is truly the pinnacle of reactionary spin.


I have three basic issues with the initiative.
First, there is no allowance for religious reasons for circumcision, which makes the proposed law unconstitutional from the get-go. My feeling is that the Board of Elections should have stopped this measure until that was addressed. In fact, not only does Mr Schofield make no allowances for religious reasons, he specifically bans consideration of religious reasons. He has to know from the beginning that even if the measure passes, it’s going to fail in the courts. Of course at that point, it’s no longer his battle or his money, or at least not just his money. The citizens of SF will be forced to defend a poorly conceived initiative passed by people who didn’t think things through.
My next issue is the idea that something that generally happens in the first hours of life outside the womb can emotionally affect a man in any measurable degree. If that’s the case, I suspect the whole delivery process is even more traumatic, going from this nice, dark, warm and relatively quiet place into this other dark place where things keep squeezing really hard for HOURS, then bursting out into a bright, cold, loud place. Talk about trauma!
I’ll easily grant that it’s painful, but so are inoculations, and no one argues against them based on the pain issue. (They do argue about them for other reasons, some good, some bad, but that’s beyond the scope of your post or mine). So why bring pain into it? I’m sure conventional birth is painful, and it could be argued that that’s an elective process, since C-sections are “less traumatic” for the child.
Finally, as I tweeted earlier today, if this is considered something that should be banned with no regard for religious freedom, when are SF voters going to address the heartless and cruel mutilation of young girls, some less than a year old, all in the name of “beauty,” AKA pierced ears? It’s an interesting sense of priorities.
And I understand basically why you do it, but coming up with a variety of derogatory derivatives on names for a media outlet you don’t like does nothing to add to your credibility. You’re a better person than that, I think. Both sides of a debate lose credibility when they speak derogatively of the other side. If something is wrong with the other side’s position, let the facts speak for themselves.
As I believe I pointed out, the measure is not an attack on religion. It just makes the value judgment that religion should not trump other concerns. I don’t ask anyone to approve or disapprove of that call; I just ask people to stop misrepresenting it.
It appears that we are biologically conditioned for the trauma of birth, and in any case it’s a necessity for anyone wishing to live in this world. Neither claim can be made for circumcision.
As for the comparison of circumcision to ear-piercing or inoculations, don’t be silly. There is no comparable pain, trauma, or disfigurement. (I don’t approve of piercing the ears of children without their consent, by the way. It’s just a ridiculous comparison. And you’re a better person than that.)
In general I certainly concur that it’s not cricket to make fun of the names of organizations or individuals. Fox is such an exceptional case that I sometimes make exceptions. Mea culpa.
Glad to contribute a Jewish intactivist perspective to the conversation!
Throughout Europe, the former Soviet Union, and South America, many Jews either never circumcised, or quietly stopped circumcising, believing it to be a violent pre-modern custom with obvious ethical problems. In America, some Jews don’t circumcise. But there is a movement of Jews who are replacing circumcision with a peaceful religious ritual that welcomes the child without violating their body. It is gaining recognition because of wonderful bloggers like you! Judaism is an evolving religion, that is focused on human ethics.
Here is even more information about Jews who are rejecting circumcision!
A Jewish Intactivist Parenting Blog
http://www.beyondthebris.com/
Jews Against Circumcision
http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.org/
Kahal – Israeli Jewish Intactivists
http://www.kahal.org/main_english.html
My Son, the Little Jew with a Foreskin by Stacey Greenberg
http://mothering.com/health/my-son-the-little-jew-with-a-foreskin
Submitted on 2011/08/09 at 3:52 am | In reply to Bob Mueller.
………. There is a movement of Jews who are questioning circumcision, and working to end this abuse of children. The movement ranges from the Orthodox to the secular, and includes mothers, fathers, scholars, historians, medical professionals, activists, and intellectuals.
Jewish Groups for Genital Integrity
* Jews Against Circumcision http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.org/
* Brit Shalom Celebrants by Mark D. Reiss, M.D. http://www.circumstitions.com/Jewish-shalom.html
* Questioning Circumcision: A Jewish Perspective by Ron Goldman, Ph.D. http://www.jewishcircumcision.org
* The Current Judaic Movement to End Circumcision: Part 1
http://intactnews.org/node/105/1311886372/jewish-voices-current-judaic-movement-end-circumcision-part-1
The Kindest Un-Cut Feminism, Judaism, and My Son’s Foreskin by Professor Michael S. Kimmel
http://www.cirp.org/pages/cultural/kimmel1/
Jewish Intactivist Miriam Pollack has some great commentary on Foreskin Man in this recent interview.
http://www.beyondthebris.com/2011/07/defying-convention-interview-with_27.html
Jews Speak Out in Favor of Banning Circumcision on Minors
http://intactnews.org/node/103/1311885181/jews-speak-out-favor-banning-circumcision-minors ………..
Cut: Slicing Through the Myths of Circumcision – A Film by Eliyahu Ungar-Sargon
http://www.cutthefilm.com
Jews for the Rights of the Child
http://www.jewsfortherightsofthechild.org/
Circumcision and the Brain
http://circumcision.org/brain.htm
Alternative Jewish Rituals
http://www.jewishcircumcision.org/ritual.htm
Israeli Linguist Vadim Cherny: How Judaic is the Circumcision?
http://vadimcherny.org/judaism/how_judaic_circumcision.htm
Wow, quite a lot of interesting material there. I’d say that anyone who is pro-circumcision should take a look. Thanks for the info.
But the Constitution says that religion does trump other concerns.
Biologically conditioned? Every birth I’ve attended (8 so far) has had the child screaming their lungs out. That’s conditioned behavior?
I was commenting on the idea that people tend to think a very public thing such as ear piercing, done in the name of “beauty,” is somehow less bothersome and more acceptable than a basically private thing quite often done on a religious basis. Who are we as adults to compare the level of pain? What about the heel stick done almost immediately after birth (iron levels, IIRC)? All my kids screamed bloody murder at that.
And the money thing bothers me, too. I think it’s selfish of Schofield doing something like this. He’s got to know that if it passes, it’s going to be challenged, but at that point, he’ll have had his 15 minutes, and he’ll be off to do something else as taxpayers pay for defending a bad law. If he doesn’t know now that it’s going be challenged, he’s not as smart as he should be. The Board of Elections I think should have no duty to certify an initiative that’s unconstitutional from the beginning.
I was hoping as I logged in with FB that this would echo out on my wall, but it didn’t. I’d like to hear more from folks.
One reason babies cry at birth is to expel fluid from their lungs so they don’t get pneumonia. As a matter of fact, I’d call that some excellent biological programming.
If you believe the Constitution decrees that religion trumps all else, then you’re reading a very different constitution from the one I grew up with. I don’t think there’s a court anywhere, even in the reddest of states, that would declare that our religious beliefs entitle us to sell our daughters into slavery (which is authorized in The Bible).
Again, why the obsession with ear-piercing? Nobody says you have to like one or the other. But ear-piercing would be a matter for the same level of concern as circumcision if it had the same kind of effects. It doesn’t.
I have no intention of defending Schofield or even his ballot initiative. But he expresses some valid concerns that are being deliberately misrepresented. And whatever faults we may find with the law he proposes, I haven’t seen anything in it that is unconstitutional, although I fully expect that the courts will so rule.
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